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Backfire! farewell special

posted by: David on 29 October 2009

After 15 years, Backfire! quits. They were one of the biggest Dutch hardcore bands of all time, so they deserve a proper goodbye. Here's our Backfire! farewell special: a recent interview with Wyb about their decision to quit, an older interview about 'In Harm's Way' and some personal stories by friends. Enjoy!



Why was this the right time to end the Backfire! story?

In our situation it was pretty hard to play shows every weekend the coming months. We had a choice to stop playing for a while and then come back. But looking back at our last year with all that great shows, we thought it has to end sometime, it's going great but let's do it now so the kids will remember Backfire at its strongest and hardest period. Enough is enough and I would hate to see Backfire go out like a candle.

You've experienced many good times, but also bad times. Which experiences will you remember best?

My highlights were: playing at CBGB's, playing at the black and blue bowl in Brooklyn, Lowlands, Dynamo, the Warzone tour, the Madball goodbye tour, the Resistance tour with Suicidal, the home is where my heart is headline tour and number one 6 weeks just with Biohazard. All my dreams came true. But all of those festivals and packed club shows all over Europe filled our hearts with pride and gratefulness. I think we have played with every band that was on my wish list, what more could i possibly ask for? Of course we had some shitty shows, fights, drama, hospital nights etc etc. Who cares? It was a dream for all of us.



Is there a life in music for the Backfire! members after this band? What are your plans?

I'm making plans to get a new band or maybe 2 new bands, one of them is going to be with Stephan kickback and I'm sure that it will be sick and awesome. I also focus on my new job, a dream job if everything works out as it's supossed to. Igor will focus on his producer carrier, Dave will show up soon in whatever band. Pat will focus on his job and family for now and Frank...no idea, he will do what he will do.

How much money would it take for you guys to do a reunion show in a couple of years?

3 times the "Balkenende norm" + the Hard Resistance comeback fee.

No man, we are not planning to come back ever. If I can't live without doing this I'm sure I will work something out but right now it's our final decision. 15 years is a long time and I'm used to being on the road the last 15 years every weekend. Maybe I will kill myself in 2 months and regret this for the rest of my life. Time will tell. I never say no, but believe me it's not our plan to make a comeback ever at this piont.



You've seen many bands and fans come and go. Do you experience hardcore differently now than you did 15 years ago?

Of course, in our genre there have been ups and downs but in some parts of Europe we always killed the shows, year in year out. That was and is a great feeling and we feel blessed that we had so much loyal fans for all these years. The Eurocore stigma was never a problem for us and every kid that spit us out because of that can start a band and do better than we did, then I will take those bullshit shittalk serious. But I'm still laughing at all those "go with the flow" nerds that suck dick in the direction where the "trendwind" is blowing. And the funny thing is, they all know who they are, they sucked my dick too when we first started out. I could write a book about that kind of "go with the flow people". Most of the those fags are working 9 to 5 now and try to tell their kids how cool they where 10 years ago. Every music scene changes every few years. I dont understand why in this scene they make such an issue about it. People come and go, it's a fact.



Do you feel like you got the recognition you deserved? It seems like especially the Dutch audience just took you for granted most of the time.

Yes we do, we've played in every Dutch club there is for at least 3 times and I understand that people are like: oh another Backfire show in Eindhoven, give my portion but to Fikkie. Don't blame them, but in Holland we also have a loyal crowd and I really hope to see all those guys and girls at our last shows. We are doing this for them. We had lots of options in our choice to pick a band we want on our last show. Madball would be too obvious, I thought about Vision, NRSV, Warzone without Raybeez but all guest vocals.



Can you comment on your past releases? How do you look back on them now?

Who Told You Life Is Easy?

A dream come true for a band that had 7 rehearsals. It was 1994, of course it sounds like shit but hey for that time... At that time we had no pretentions, and I think the power of Backfire is we never had them...ever.

Rebel 4 Life

Same story: we just tried to make music with a minimum of musical skills but lots of will and dreams to start a band that is able to play a few show in our hometown. If I listen to it now and read the lyrics I laugh, but it worked and was the base of everything we did from then.



All Bets Are Off

Great guitar sound, with cheesy lyrics on most of them and Pat was still trying to find his final real voice. There are a few songs on there I still think are okay.

Choose My Own Path

Tribute to some of our heroes, last Richie record so that makes it special for me. The title song is one of my favorite BF songs. The Slayer cover was recorded on drugs and Josh from Congress on guitar.

The War Starts Here

I'm happy with that one, the layout looks like shit though.



Still Dedicated

A tribute to Richard so a very emotional record, and an important one because the kids did not know of we were able to make a good cd without him. The production is weak though.

Change The Game

One of the best records, but the worst production of them all, even though we went to Brooklyn to record it with Mike from Breakdown and Matt from AF/Madball. I wish I could record that one again with Igor.

In Harm's Way

Without a doubt my favorite record. Best production, hardest songs, best lyrics and full of REAL frustration. And that it was put out on GSR is special to me because Theo turned out to be one of the coolest guys I've met in my whole life being a musician. I'm proud of that record because we took it to another level in my opinion. For a band that put out over 5 cd's that is not very common. But also this record was recorded with no pretentions, we didn't think for one second if our fans would digg it or try to make a new Still Dedicated song. We did what we like and I'm proud of that.



PERSONAL STORIES BY CLOSE FRIENDS:

Owen Eussen:

A few months ago, on the way back from a show, Wyb told me that the band was thinking about splitting up. I didn’t really believe him at the time, because this was not the first time he talked to me about the band splitting up. It never happened before, so I figured they would just continue to do their stuff as always. However; when I spent a few weeks in Morocco last month and checked my email, I found out that this time they really went through with it…

I got to know Wyb when we were kids, and we played for the same local football team VV De Heeg. Back then we never really talked much. Wyb had long hair back then, and was the ‘hardrocker’ of the team, and I was probably listening U2 or some other shit back then, so we never really connected. Years later I was working at a video rental place (videotheek JIPH) on sundays, and I bumped into Wyb again. Wyb was a regular customer there, and because I had started listening to louder music as well, we had something in common and started talking about music and our other mutual love; Ajax Amsterdam. After a while a bunch of other guys that were into hardcore started to hang out at videotheek JIPH on sundays, especially after closing time, when we would drink beers and watch Headbangers Ball together.



Soon after that Backfire! played their first show ever at Bananas in Maastricht, and I was completely blown away. This was the type of music that I had been waiting for. Fast, loud and very aggressive. I had been listening to metal and stuff like Biohazard before, but this was something else. At first I just visited all of the Backfire! shows that I could, but it didn’t take long before I started helping them out by doing merch and/or driving them to shows. During this time Backfire! mostly played shows in Limburg and Brabant, but also got more popular in other parts of Holland, Belgium and Germany. This resulted in them recording their first 7” ‘Who told you life was easy?’ for Lost and Found Records in 1995, followed in 1996 by their first full length ‘Rebel 4 Life’. By this time Backfire! had started to play shows every weekend, and at the end of 1996 they got asked join Warzone on their six week European tour. Obviously everyone in and around the band was very excited about this, and to my delight I was one of the lucky ones to be able to join them. The Warzone tour was without a doubt a life changing experience. This may sound a little dramatic, but as a 19 year old kid everything that happened on that tour had a huge impact on me. I have been on many tours with Backfire! after that, but the memories I have of the Warzone tour are the fondest. I could probably write a book about all the stuff that happened on that tour, but what happens on tour….. All I can say is that gas station owners, clubs, promoters and fathers throughout Europe were relieved when the tour came to an end.

After the Warzone tour I continued to drive and do merch for Backfire! for the next 10 years or so, so you can definitely say that Backfire! has been a big part of my life. We’ve spent hours, days, weeks and months in crappy vans together, spent way too many hours on the German autobahn in endless fucking ‘staus’, consumed ridiculous amounts of alcohol and other substances, and even though there have been a few times that I got fed up with all of their crazy shit, I wouldn’t have want to miss it for the world!

Dudes; A vous l’honneur et les fleurs!



Hoya Roc:

Backfire... There’s too many stories with those guys! Backfire are one of our oldest and best friends from Europe. We’ve know them a long time. Some of the tours we’ve done with them are some of our most memorable tours.

They are one of the few bands that you get along with everybody in the band. There’s not just one cool guy you get along with. They’re all the same and they’re all like us. We click a lot, from Richie (RIP) who used to be in the band to Igor now. For some reason we always got along.

We had a lot of good times touring, drinking, talking shit, watching movies. They’re like our extended family in Europe. When I speak to one of them I don’t even think ‘these are our friends from Europe’. No, they are our boys. There’s a lot of love between us and them.

From day one we had a good connection with them. Freddy even sings along on their first EP from 1995. They are one of the few people that we met early on that were just like us. And we loved their music too. They’re definitely one of Europe’s top hardcore bands for sure.



They put a lot of European hardcore on the map. They are one of the few bands that came to America. I mean, they played the Superbowl Of Hardcore! They not only had a great show, but people were talking about them later on. Back home that’s rare for bands from overseas. A lot of people try to be too cool. But Backfire had a really great show, which was a surprise, because New York can be really hard to play if they’re not too familiar with you. It was good to see them do their thing there.

Now it’s time for new bands to step up. There will never be another band like them. But they definitely showed that if you play good, you’ll do your thing right and you keep playing, you’ll get recognized for it. Backfire was the perfect band to set the bar for European hardcore bands. They did really good.

I think it’s never a good time for a good band to stop, but I know that sometimes it’s hard to make life and music work. I know they loved the band and the music so much, so they probably have their reasons to quit. I wish them all good luck and hopefully see some of them in new music projects in the future. Who knows?

I’ll stay in touch with them for sure. Whenever we play, within a couple of hours they’re there. Some people have friends living in different towns, we have them in different countries. I know Mitts stays in touch with Wyb a lot and I talk to Pat regularly. So, we’ll still see each other and we’ll be friends for a long time to come.



Marco Swaan:

August 2009 – A text message from Payback drummer Dennis “Hey Co …………..ik lees net op Asice dat Backfire ermee kapt!” I received this text message during my holiday in Italy this summer. At first I thought he was kidding, but he assusered me it was true. Loads of memories crossed my mind.

Young hc rookies that we were, both Backfire and Violation of Trust started around the same time in the early nineties. Having fun making the music we loved the most: HARDCOOOOOORE! Both bands with a lot of personality, with a lot of potential and more important: Friends! With Violation of Trust we’ve just released our Strike One demo tape as we went to the Bananas bar to see some bands in M-town…..the legendary Bananas gig offered us what I consider the birth of Holland's Eurocore. Why? Because that’s the day when we met the guys from Right Direction (I still remember when Ömer introduced me to Dave RD), Backfire and One Night Stand as well as their infamous entourage: The M-town Rebels. It felt to me as if I walked right into a pub in New York city. Especially because the mighty Warzone headlined the show.

Everybody went completely nuts that night on every gig. I was instantly impressed by the frontman skills of Dave RD but when I saw Backfire’s first show, they completely blew me away. Fast and furious hardcore with lots of comparison to the music we produced with VOT. You could see at that show that this band had it all! The sound, the riffs, the vocals, the attitude and………….THE drummer! What the fuck was this? Twee meter hardcore, a body covered with tattoos and bald head! I couldn’t take my eyes of this madman bashing the drums as if his life depended on it (well…….) A big smile on his face and arms moving around octopussy style. This was what I called hardcore! WOW!

Later that night during the Warzone show Vinnie threw away his sticks and dived into the moshpit……fucking amazing! And there he was again……this drumming hardcore giant filled in Vinnie Values place in the Warzone line-up as if he played with them all his life. Brilliant! Also because with the BF show he was clearly a lefty and now he played with the same energy and skills right handed without a problem. When we drove home to good old Brabant (nie fokke he!) we all couldn’t stop talking how great this night was with our new fellow mates and bands. A friendship was born.



We met these guys numerous times later in the “scene”. Played together, we came to their gigs, they showed up at our shows. Those pioneering years evolving this thing called Eurocore with other brotherbands like Right Direction, Discipline and Tech 9 were unique. Even if I didn’t see it that way at the time. I’m glad we were a part of this “thing”. Back then we we’re just having fun, living life the rock n roll way and enjoying ourselves to the maxxx!.

That’s why I think I took us all by surpise when we heard that our friend and uncrowned King of the Dutch hardcore scene, Richie, died. A turning point in the history of the Dutch HC scene.

When David asked me to write some words about BF, I knew immediately that I had to mention the Bananas gig and some words dedicated to Richie. Maybe other guys are writing about this loss too, but from my point of view I can’t leave it out of my story too. But I will keep it short.

I will never forget the mass in church, Dave’s emotional words, even “victim in pain” was played, and we were all looking down blinking away our tears. I can’t explain what we all felt an shared that day. But if you take a look at the picture at the back of One Night Stand’s first cd, it almost looks like a picture taken on that day……how ironic

As impressive as that day itself was the BF gig a week later at the Karregat. All day long dedicated to Richie and Igor proving to be a very skilled and professional drummer too. Again you could feel the emotions during the BF show ending with all members in tears on stage…..bonded by an event they never expected to happen. A new start, a new line-up and more new albums to come……….thank god they didn’t quit at that time…………

“Rebel for Life” and “Still dedicated” are my favorite BF albums. “Rebel” because it was the album that opened everybody’s eyes to Dutch hardcore and “Still” because I can’vt think of an album with more aggression, so many cool riffs, vocals beyond any standard and the Classic Dutch hardcore song “Still dedicated” itself.



And that’s exactly what’s the difference between Backfire and Violation of Trust. Backfire has the classic songs, the sing a longs, the metal songs, the old school songs, the beatdown songs and the many cool covertunes. Every hardcore kid likes Backfire……you just had to! With VOT we just played fast and loud and acted like idiots (with Payback we still play fast and loud, hopefully without the idiot part…….hehehe).

I can’t think of another Dutch hardcore band who deserves more credit than Backfire. People will always be pronouncing the name Backfire with a certain respect. Or screaming it: BACK-FI-RE!!! Just like metal fans always scream the name SLAYER in stead of speaking it out with a low voice. That’s when you now you’ve been succesfull and achieved something in the underground world we call “our scene”.

Pat, Wyb, Frank, Igor and Dave3….I wish you all the best of luck and understand your decision. Maybe with a new band but for sure with a new life…..hehehehe……see you all at the first Backfire reunion gig!!!

Cheers Mates!
Marco Swaan
Violation of Trust / Payback



INTERVIEW FROM FEBRUARY 2008 WITH WYB ABOUT 'IN HARM'S WAY':

Backfire
Stronger because of hard times

For 15 years Backfire from Maastricht is one of the hardcore giants of Europe. They've known many ups and downs, but they always continued. The time period before the new record 'In Harm's Way' was a difficult one as well. Still the band battled their way through the hardship and the result is a very strong album by these guys from M-Town. Guitarist Wyb Brouwer talks about the making of 'In Harm's Way'.



Lots of frustration and emotion
The inspiration for the new record came from hard times, says Wyb: 'I wrote most of the lyrics for 'In Harm's Way' and most of the songs are about the crappy year that I left behind me. The same goes for our singer Patrick and our other guitarist Dave, so that's the reason why the atmosphere of the new record is pretty dark. When I write lyrics for Backfire I search for something that fits our hard and aggressive music. Usually I pick real life stuff, because it feels good to write about those things and get rid of them. We have a song about the miserable state of the world and child soldiers, but that's the only thing that's not directly related to us. Personal experiences will always be a source of inspiration for Backfire. We're not poets. The lyrics speak for themselves.'



Sam's Song
The title of the album, 'In Harm's Way', already delivers the message: Backfire has been through a lot in the past couple of years. The only song that Wyb didn't write lyrics for is 'Sam's Song', about the struggle of singer Patrick's handicapped daughter. As you would expect, the father wrote the lyrics about his own child. Wyb: 'Sam and her family have gone through the worst of times. From the moment she was born, she was in hospitals during her first year for surgery. She has a very rare syndrom and that's why she has to have about 20 more operations in the next four years. Her parents practically live at the hospital, so you can see why this is hard. Patrick has put a lot of effort into 'Sam's Song'. The vocals for all of the other songs were recorded in one take, but this one had to be done at least ten times before he was satisfied. This song had to be perfect.'



Almost the end of Backfire
When members of a band are having a hard time, the whole band automatically has a hard time. Wyb: 'Of course we gave Patrick all the time and space he needed and we tried to be there for him. On the other hand we had band meetings to decide if we should quit playing music, because it was all so intense. Emotions were leading the band at a certain point and the new album really meant something in that aspect. Going into the studio together and recording those songs that we all felt so strongly about, rekindled the fire within the band. We changed together and we want to go out and play our songs. Our guitarist Dave wrote Backfire songs for the first time: the metal influences you hear are his. I think 'In Harm's Way' turned out to be a real Backfire record. We wanted every song to be brutal. Not neccesarily fast, but brutal. You hear less chorusses than usual. It's really just a bunch of frustrated lyrics with loud noise around them, haha!'



No longer a comic book sound
Drummer Igor Wouters produced, recorded and mixed the new album. The band is very satisfied with the result. 'In Harm's Way' is better than all previous records production wise, says Wyb: 'Igor also did the second Angel Crew record and gained a lot of experience with that. If we wouldn't have trusted him, we would've never let him do the Backfire record, of course, but it was still a gamble. In hindsight it was really great to have a small studio in our home town Maastricht. In the past we used to be locked up a couple of weeks to make the cd, but now we could take a break whenever we wanted, go home and relax. And the end result sounds great. Of course we don't need a Machine Head production, but I think we have the perfect sound for Backfire now. The cruelest thing about that is that we went to New York for our previous album 'Change The Game' to record with Mike Dijan from Breakdown and Matt Henderson from Madball. In the end we got a comic book sound from them. Now we took a lot more time to record and we could be honest with Igor when we didn't like a certain aspect. With other people you don't say that much, especially when you only have two weeks to record your album in New York with a well-known producer. Anyway, Igor gave us the best production ever, so we'll definitely go for the same approach next time. Another advantage was that the office of GSR Music is located in the same building as our recording studio. That worked out great. Not that we had troubles with our previous label I Scream, but it's certainly cool that I live 3 minutes away from our label manager now.'



For old time's sake
Backfire has been around for 15 years now in the hardcore scene, but always progressed. Wyb speaks about the early days: 'I can imagine that a lot of people listen to our debut 'Rebel 4 Life' for old time's sake. There 'weren't a lot of hardcore bands around in those days and the 'eurocore' sound wasn't even born yet. We didn't try to copy anyone, be discovered a sound wth simple riffs and a lot of enthusiasm. But when I listen to those songs now, I think they're horrible in many ways. It's so damn simple that I can't imagine somebody buying this album and actually liking it. But hey, that's the way we sounded in 1994. Luckily we've improved ourselves since then with every record.'



No more taking risks
Making money was never a driving force for Backfire, says Wyb: 'I think we could have made a living out of the band if we wanted to. But we never really invested in the band. If we all would have quit our jobs and promoted our band better, it could have gone differently. We only just have a MySpace account for a year and a half. We never even had a website before that. For years we didn't have any new merchandise, until we signed with GSR. Still we were pretty succesful, so I think we could have achieved more if we really wanted it. Now we all have homes, partners, steady jobs and some of us even a child, so we won't be taking risks anymore.'



Quit when you've lost your credibility
'Music in general still means the same to me now compared to 15 years ago, but playing in a band is different now than it used to be,' says Wyb. 'We all get older, we've seen and done a lot, we've played everywhere and we've seen bands come and go. When you start a band at 18 years old, you think every new experience is great. We're about to tour the USA for the second time and we've played in almost every venue in Europe with every band you can think of. That doesn't mean that our enthusiasm is gone, but it's just different after all these years. It's still fun though, otherwise we wouldn't do it anymore. We won't get rich anyway, so that's not our motivation. Because of the new record we're booked for a lot of shows, so we're fully booked until June 2008. As long as we stay that popular and we can reach a different or new audience, we'll keep on doing it. But we also know that there's a time to stop for every band. The lyrics we wrote when we were 18 are not very credible anymore when you scream them on stage and you're in your late forties. Unfortunately not all bands see it this way... With hardcore it's a different story than with rock 'n' roll for exmple. Mike Ness from Social Distortion could be on stage until he's sixty. We can't. '



Interviews by David.
Pictures taken from the Backfire MySpace site.

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Jan035 NTF
Posted on 29.10.2009 (09:14)
Cool!
Nico
Posted on 29.10.2009 (09:52)
Mega cool, Ik hoop dat zoals altijd Warzone covertje nog voorbij gaat komen.
Balinho EBC
Posted on 29.10.2009 (09:59)
Maybe I will kill myself in 2 months and regret this for the rest of my life.


wastedrobin
Posted on 29.10.2009 (10:11)
Really cool text!! RIP backfire! cya the 13th
DE DIKKE UIL
HDKC
Posted on 29.10.2009 (10:38)
give my portion but to Fikkie


Whahaha I really keep from this sort of outspoken!
michiel dead
rivers
Posted on 29.10.2009 (10:48)
Aderlating voor de scene...maar dan echt!
Joost78
Posted on 29.10.2009 (11:22)
Dat had natuurlijk wel moeten zijn "give my portion but to little fire".
Blunt RWHC
Posted on 29.10.2009 (11:48)
"in Holland we also have a loyal crowd and I really hope to see all those guys and girls at our last shows. We are doing this for them"

But not where they live...
howard
Posted on 29.10.2009 (12:02)
Zwaar verlies voor de europese scene. Vrijdag 13 geven we er voor de laatste keer een serieuze lap op! Veel succes met toekomstige plannen.
thebartender
Posted on 29.10.2009 (13:33)
Mooie lap tekst, kijk met bijzonder gevoel uit naar de 13e
MFkid
Posted on 29.10.2009 (13:50)
Kijk er al zo naar uit! Kan enkel maar tegenvallen met zo een hoge verwachtingen
Jenno NTF
Posted on 29.10.2009 (14:12)
Goed Maradona-approved antwoord bij vraag 5.
Arjennnn
Posted on 29.10.2009 (14:56)
End of an arena
stengels
Posted on 29.10.2009 (15:39)
Mooi werk David!!
En wat baal ik dat ik er niet bij kan zijn...
Catharsis1978
Posted on 29.10.2009 (16:23)
Menig ruige Backfire show gezien/meegemaakt..
Mooie special ook!
sander@dynamo
Posted on 29.10.2009 (16:46)
Tja... jeugdsentiment he...
Paul Superior
Posted on 29.10.2009 (20:23)
heel cool, zin in die show de 13de!
Pale man
Posted on 29.10.2009 (20:25)
De eerste keer dat ik Backfire! zag was volgens mij in De Toonzaal in OOsterhout. Tijdens de soundcheck speelde wyb de intro van Forever war en was ik fan.

edit: dat was niet de eerste keer bedenk ik me nu... oh well
MANOLO HDKC
Posted on 29.10.2009 (22:57)
Uil, you were me front!
Sell_Me_Your_S
oul
Posted on 29.10.2009 (23:32)
Mooie tijden gehad in Eurocore Eindhoven en vette shows van BF gezien, mijn favoriete moment is jaren terug een knokpartij met een groep andere limburgers in Dynamo, stond met pat naast de concertzaal deur te knokken en komt ineens de lange uit de zaal met een barkruk boven het hoofd hahaha..priceless!

Good memories.
Balinho EBC
Posted on 30.10.2009 (14:21)
Crowbar show was dat.
Rene Jacques
Posted on 30.10.2009 (14:37)
Het was een kleine vergelding voor de kleine beatdown die Pat en ondergetekende enkele weken eerder in Stein ontvingen van diezelfde Limburgers.
brasso
Posted on 30.10.2009 (17:06)
en mijn eerste kennismaking met de Lange en Reumers... :-(
de Rimmshot/Aelse crew tegen MTown en Eidhoven...
born to expire
Posted on 01.11.2009 (20:01)
Respect. Heel erg jammer dat deze band stopt. En Blunt, niet helemaal waar. Maastricht weet gelukkig nog een bus met 60 personen op de been te brengen de 13de. Was dit 1995 geweest, hadden het hooguit twee bussen geweest.
koentor
Posted on 02.11.2009 (10:23)
"give my portion but to Fikkie"

mooie verhalen. hopelijk nog aanwezig bij een afscheidsshow! ook mooi dat de run dmc-rip off nog steeds in gebruik is. "ontwerptijd": 2 minuten.
sakis
Posted on 03.11.2009 (18:55)
ok interview, mooi dat wyb ook echt zelfkritisch is over opnamens en lay out. bizar ook dat gsr records een soort van begraafplaats is van "eurocorebands" Anyway goede band, en stoppen op het goede moment, respect.
brasso
Posted on 05.11.2009 (19:11)
PARDON???????
Kapitein Sjarm
Posted on 06.11.2009 (11:09)
Mooi stukkie! Alleen misschien een editor die ff engels checkt of zo?
Pitface
Posted on 08.11.2009 (18:21)
Supertof stukje, echt leuk om te lezen. Kijk met gemengde gevoelens uit naar de 13e. Dat het een memorabele avond wordt staat vast.
Ron Fury
Posted on 12.11.2009 (17:55)
Will miss ya guys!! da true old sckool warriors! metalic hardcore fighters!! Respect!!

Rebel for life, Ron Fury!
HC Gandalf
Posted on 17.11.2009 (13:00)
hier staat 1 uur film van de antwerpen show

www.youtube.com/user/sjoerd1705

klik recht op upload(50)
helaas geen super geluid :-(

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